Shmel 2 Russian

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  1. kohdarmiansali Iran, Islamic Republic of

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    Hello, good morning friends Yes, I opened the burner, there was no obstruction, but I did not dare to touch the graphite washer.
    Considering that there was an iron net, it is not possible to install another net
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    Hello, have you tried restarting the stove from zero pressure as @gieorgijewski explained?

    Nicola
     
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    Hello, I did the steps you said, but there was no change, still the flame had its pulse. I thought the problem was with the silent part, I removed it and installed the star flame, the roar of the demon was very loud and the same beat of the flame could be heard.
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    Ok, do you have a replacement nipple eventually?

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    No, unfortunately, spare parts are not available and the nipple is too big:lol::lol:. The nipples in the stores are too small and won't fit this oven unless I buy another oven for another $100 and swap the nipples, which is a problem for me.

    We should leave the stove alone and love her as she is
     
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    Ahahah nipples, jets, heads… I am still unsure how should we call them :)

    The pulsation happens also at lower pressure? Are you using gasoline right?

    Nicola
     
  8. kohdarmiansali Iran, Islamic Republic of

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    Yes, I use car gasoline, but we can buy Super gasoline, which has better quality, from the gas station and test it, maybe it will work.

    In a weak flame, the pulse becomes less
    The first time I pumped three times and the next time I added 3 more pumps but each time the pulse continued.
     
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    imo problem is with liquid flowed thru gas generator moved by bulb in riser tube
    this bulbing working as fuel pump inside the riser
    bulbing in the riser is the signal of boiling fuel in the riser
    possibly to high temperature of the riser
    or and - unclean gas generator surfaces and all internal tank surfaces
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    decrease riser temperature is possibly by heat resistant seal in burner - tank point
    but first by me will be cleaning tank, generator inside, and mesh
     
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    Your Super Gasoline probably has a higher octane rating than the gasoline you were using before.

    Higher octane is achieved by adding substances to the gasoline which prevent knocking in high compression automobile engines.

    But these substances will not burn properly in a camp stove. You should use the cleanest low-octane gasoline you can find.

    ….Arch
     
  11. kohdarmiansali Iran, Islamic Republic of

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    Hello, thank you,

    I don't understand most of your technical words and I try to translate them. For example, a lamp in your words means a lamp that is 220 volts and is used for room lighting. This exchange of information between two languages from two countries and the Google Translate program creates problems. And it becomes difficult to understand the content
    I will check all the steps again Hoping for good days and calm and good ovens
     
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    Hello, thank you for your attention, there are only two types of gasoline in my country Can I experiment with kerosene, maybe the pulse will go away, not a good idea?
    Or should I test diesel fuel for heavy vehicles?
     
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    I try to semplify: clean perfectly the tank and the feeding tube from tank to burner, clean mesh into burner. Use high quality gasoline, not automotive one.

    Nicola
     
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    it looks as overheated
    too much preheated
     
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    The total time it was on was 5 minutes less
     
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    re your "We should leave the stove alone and love her as she is..."

    i hope you stick with this one.
    gieorgi sees problem, continue efforts to solve problem.
    my recall is auto gas use was fine for these. ANY use of auto gas it must be fresh (to view the fuel pour it into glass, let it settle, if it is suspect) and burn through the auto fuel completely (consider it to have zero shelf life ESPECIALLY in hot climates).
    burning a small amount of clean white gas through it (after a month / a session with auto gas) would be helpful.

    of all your postings, imo, this shmel is as good or better a fit for you as any of the others.

    i appreciate your views, i read and like to see all your posts / comments btw.
    good luck
     
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    please compare sounds from second video with thats

    made by Aleks-S
     
  19. kohdarmiansali Iran, Islamic Republic of

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    Hi dear friend Thank you for following the content carefully Yes, as you said, I really like the Shmel Russian gas stove because it turns on quickly, it is very strong and excellent, and it works with a good and slow flame. Detachable pump structure is a good idea I hope that with your help, the problem of pulsating gas stove will be solved. Be happy and cheerful.
    By the way, what type of gasoline are white gasoline and automatic gasoline? In our country, car gasoline is green
     
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    here
    easy and slow
    shmel 2 burning