Sigg Firejet

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  1. AlanBiker

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    Hello comrades,
    This came today,for free !
    Anyhow, here are some pics. Apologies for so many but since I have been looking at CCS I've not read or seen much about the Firejett. Anyone else one? What's your view?
    I have just boiled a few kettle fulls of water so far. My impression is a well made and robust stove. Actually, beautifully made. It's Swiss so what else can one expect? Although the pump is plastic it is made from tough material and I think it will last. The pump has a date on it, 1999. It bolied the Trangia kettle in about 4.5mins' Nothing to shout about but acceptable. I did not find it has much variation in heat output, all or nothing really but they may be down to it needing a new "O" ring in the contol valve.
    Regards,
    Alan

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  2. barrabruce

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    Have looked at them but only here and a few lost posts here and there.
    I was hoping that it would be silent type??
    Hows it for the noise?
    Depressurizing it like a "normal kero stove" does that bring it down to a simmer??
    or do you need to have it pumped to make it work??
    Like the leg arrangements on them.
    And the burner seems interesting.
    Could have got one here in OZ with spares a while back
    Think I may kick myself but I have only really heard not good reports on them from anywhere!!!
    Would it if into a trangia/ Sigg traveller windscreen??
    The nipples burner arrangement which I have never seen. Are they standard size nipples etc?
    Lots of questions Hey?
    Thanks for sharering
    Alan
     
  3. Doc Mark

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    Hey, ?lan,

    Great score! "Free" is great, in anybody's book!!! ;) 8) :D I now have two of these neat little stoves, and have used one of them extensively. My thoughts are similar to yours. It's well made, works very well, and is quite small and compact. Simmering is not it's strong suite, but it can be made to so, especially if you use a simmering plate. About the only trouble I have had was with the original pump bucket in my first Fire-Jet. The leather was absolute crap, even brand new, and it eventually pulled itself off the plastic keeper on the pump rod, and lodged down deep in the pump well. A bent paperclip got it out just fine, and I tossed it into the "do not, under pain of death, ever use this thing again", pile!! I then installed a proper Optimus 111 pump leather, and it's worked a treat ever since. As the Optimus leather was rather stiff, and the Sigg one was as limp as a "Viagra-starved Willy", it took a bit of elbow grease to get the new leather onto the plastic keeper. But, it eventually went on, and works perfectly. I checked the leather on the lastest Sigg Fire-Jet, I got a while back, and it's of nice quality, and MUCH better than was the first one. Of course, I got that first stove, way back when the Fire-Jet was still brand new, and Sigg was probably still working the bugs out of it.

    Great little stove, in any case, and works very well! The "carburetor" under the stove is only of little help, but it does work, when used as stated in the directions. My latest Fire-Jet also came standard with a spring-wrapped piece of fluff that's used to help prime the stove, when burning kero. I haven't tried it yet, but it's design makes sense, and it should work well. If you didn't get one of those, let me know, and I'll take a photo of mine, and post it. You can easily make one for yourself, if you want one, and didn't get it. Again, great score, and outstanding photos, Alan!! Thanks for sharing your new stove with us! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc Mark
     
  4. tim

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    Hi Alan!

    Please tell us, where does one get free Sigg Firejets!!?? LOL
    that looks like a nice little stove, seen a few on ebay here and there...

    regards
    tim
     
  5. AlanBiker

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    Well, free means friends and colleagues in Switzerland.
    I think it's quite quiet. Not too noisy at all. A tape recording project :)
    You can't de-pressurise it like a kero burner. It works like most of the remote fuel tank burners, Optimus Nova for one example.
    Not sure if it'll fit inside those pan sets. What do you think Doc?
    I have not taken it apart yet. My Father taught me not to mess if it was working fine ;)
    I might have known you'd have two of 'em Doc :)
    I love the way it folds in a cylinder shape.
    I shall cook two sausages tomorrow morning for breakfast on the little Sigg.
    regards,
    Alan
     
  6. Doc Mark

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    Hey, Alan,

    "Siggy Stardust"... I LOVE IT!! :lol: :lol: =D> :lol: :lol:

    As far as depressurizing it, I've just taken the hose off, and then slowly unscrewed the pump, to let out the pressure. Works, if a little messy. Like you, I think the Fire-Jet is a nice, quiet little stove. And, "little" is the key word here, folks! For those that haven't seen one of these little guys, when it's all folded up, it's a good bit smaller than a SVEA 123!!! :shock: 8) :D Opened up and ready for business, it's more stable than the 123, too, but it lacks the 123's versatility as far as true simmering goes. Still, a very powerful little stove, for it's tiny size. I can't imagine a small pot set into which this stove WON'T fit! However, I don't think it would work in a Trangia setup, unless you completely took it apart. This is something that I'll not do to mine, as I might not be able to get it back together again. It's not setup for such dismantling and reassembly.

    You don't really need to take it apart, Alan, if it's working a treat. Did you get the little spring-type cleaning needle with yours? If not, I can measure mine, and you can find a guitar string that will work for you. I have tied mine onto the stove bag with red thread, so I don't lose it. It's a tiny little beggar and I can imagine that it could easily go missing, without too much trouble! :shock: :roll:

    One thing about which you do have to worry, is the gasket under the burner. If it cracks, it will leak and then your stove will become a fireBALL, instead of a Fire-Jet. Make certain the threaded plug is tight, and you should have no worries. I've never had to replace my gasket, but it was written, back when the stove was new, that this gasket would char up and go South on you. Never happened to me, though.

    Yeah, I just got my second one a few months ago. This is the seller that charged a high shipping price, then shipped it Media Mail!!! GRRRRR!!! :evil: :twisted: :evil: :x : shock: I gave him a positive feedback, but with a caveate. He didn't like it, I presume, and so never gave me any feedback at all, even though I paid immediately after the auction, and sent tons of communication to him. So, I modified my original feedback with an addendum, warning that this was not an honest seller. STILL haven't heard back from him, nor have I received my own feedback. F'em!!!

    To me, this is the perfect "pocket stove", for those adventures where you want a really small stove, with big performance, and one that is easy to use, and quiet! Again, congrats on getting yours, Alan! Nice score, that's for sure, and I'm also sure you'll like this stove, more and more, as you use it. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc Mark

    P.S. I just had an idea!! As this stove folds up so small, and as it's a remote tank type stove, I'd bet you could stick two of them on the same fuel tank!!!! All you would need to do is make a fitting for the fuel feedline, and have a shut-off valve for each stove. Hummmmm....... BRUCE, WHERE ARE YOU, BRUCE!!!!! :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: 8) 8) 8) 8)
     
  7. spudz

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    Well done on scoring the Firejet.
    Sounds like a neat little stove, ... yet another 'perfectly good stove' sacrificed on the alter of progress, or was it corporate greed/ shady dealings ?

    Spudz (feeling Grinch like after a week of it in work this morning!)
     
  8. Ed Winskill

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    Spudz, maybe nobody bought it!
     
  9. Doc Mark

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    Hey, Guys,

    Ed makes an outstanding point about the Sigg, which crosses over to many other of our favorites. Back when the Fire-Jet was originally offered, Sigg did a very crappy job of marketing it, here in the States. They must have learned how to do that from Optimus, who also did a crappy job marketing their stoves. Add to that, the fact that MSR had pretty much won-over the backpacking press, with the size, quality, and number of their ads, and you have the corporate kiss of death that spelled the end of many a fantastic stove!! The funny thing is that MSR stoves are really not that great, all things considered, and except for the X-GK, they're not really worthy of our consideration, in my humble opinion. (I have many of them, and my opinion is based on lots of experience with them.) Many of the MSR plastic pumps are starting to fail, after many years on the market, and they've had to re-engineer their pumps to make them stronger. And, over those years, many other stoves, which were much better than those offered by MSR, have slipped quietly into obscurity, all because of advertising $$ and marketing!!! Go figure......! I fully understand "why" this has happened, but I don't have to like it, do I!!?? Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc Mark
     
  10. barrabruce

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    Hello Heaveno
    Somthing like this??

    ------0TX0--------Burner
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    0
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    0--------------Burner

    Un attached

    --------0o0--------Burner

    ---------0o0---------Burner

    Could be done.
    Coupling would be about 1/2 inches in length or so and non bendy plus weight.
    :? Control valves. Be all heavey setup with etra weight if done in standard brass couplings. Be a straight un bendt bit for say 3 4 inches though.
    Probably better of using two set ups as the weight wouldn't be all that much difference.

    Now if you go ...............
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