re: "Thermos Bottle that also was issued" (if so, i think it is my something new learned today) Anyone, When ever convenient at some point, more detail, a link or pic(s) of such a Swedish issue thermos would be a welcome contribution. thx
When I did my service (June 1990 - May 1991), it was a glass thermos bottle which was nicknamed "fältmaracas", which I guess would translate to "battlefield maraca". The name suggests it would be very fragile, but that was not my experience. Mine did not break until the very last week of my year in green clothes. It survived in my backpack when it was run over by a TGB 20 (at low speed). It is not very easy to find good images online, but try searching for "försvaret termos". You may find some pics from surplus stores or tradera.com. I'm not sure if it is allowed to post links to online shops (this is my first post). Some admin can perhaps remove this if its in violation of any rules: Termos - Hope this was of at least a little help.
WELCOME Sven, Thank you, this is very much appreciated. With your hint i found a couple web images, here is one described as from the 50s: It is shown disassembled (to show removable insert). For normal use only the plastic cap/cup is removed. search tags: forsvaret, försvaret termos, termosflaskan The few examples/years found with initial search have very similar appearance, aside from another having a brighter green plastic cup. The thermos seems to be an item issued separately, vs part of a kit? Slightest differences aside, what these thermoses may have in common, I can only guess, the cup/cap has the 3 crowns marking aluminum exterior, insulated (thermally and increased durability) the glass flask insert is removeable/replaceable. It does not appear to be double lined glass. I presume it is pyrex type glass allowing boiling water to be added into a frigid thermos? Again this is just initial finding (from a foreigner). TBD may be: issued to whom more specifically, during what year range etc. Our site certainly has a fondness for makers of aluminum accessories used with camp stoves, which begs the question: Any maker marks? What maker might have provided these to the Swedish defense? Thx again tag @Sven O
My comment made in haste: "It does not appear to be double lined glass." Further review, appearance is inconclusive but in hindsight with comment from the homeland ("battlefield maraca" ... very fragile) and it's given name "termos" I would think, that yes, it is likely double lined vacuum insulated flask. oops yes? ------------------ Not for nothing, CCS is really something quite special, Kudos to Ross, admin & membership, there are many threads like this and it is: global member driven this one, is 13 1/2 yrs old, has 65,000+ views remains relevant as a reference vast categorized content mostly open (searchable, dynamic & cross referenced) an open welcoming respectful culture Membership longevity, IE most contributors on page one of this thread 2007 remained available here in the loooong meanwhile (although not getting any younger) I do not seek an answer but there can not be many online places like this! It will hold my interest for the foreseeable future.
That rubber plug seem to have been introduced at end of the 1950's while the earlier had cork. Green paint instead of grey started during WW2 and the cups shifted material an colour during the decades, the military glass vacuum bottle was produced by a number of factories but the civilian of that design before WW2 were marked as registered design with trade mark "THERMOS".
Yes OMC, it was a double glass bottle (vacuum, i guess). You could pour boiling water into it and it kept hot for quite long. It was issued among the standard personal gear in the army. Along with the mess kit discussed. It wouldn't surprise me if the navy and air force also got a lot of the same equipment. I'm not sure during which years, but the gear was pretty much the same for decades. Thanks for the warm welcome. I'll post some pics of my little stove collection soon... :-) -- Sven
Your are certainly welcome Sven, The pleasure is ours. I look forward to more posts / stoves. Lennart, Thank you. Ah ha, earlier versions had cork plug, that makes sense (same is true for similar US thermoses). Re: "That rubber plug seem to have been introduced at end of the 1950's" I appreciate your input while i know we strive to be accurate. My above comment is from one web example "described as from the 50s". I post only to caution I do not suggest basing any dating estimate on that one example. That one may or may not be accurate or all original. Accurate year range estimates are not easy to come by and typically sourced from multiple, at times MANY, collaborating examples. For field use and designed with replaceable parts, the older the termos we can guess the less likely it is "all original". Dated images/publications can be most helpful. There are several dated images posted from Swedish military manuals, none of termos iirc. and i gotta run, thx again
All parts were interchangeable during 5 decades, first glass had protection rings of "papier maché", later rubber and last a soft plastic sleeve crimped to the bottom. Last update was a larger cup and a plastic plug with rubber ring(silicone on the last), quite similar to the plastic bodied civilian versions made at that time.
Hello Turn the wind shield upside down close the wire supports until they grip the Trangia burner and place large pots on top.
What is the diameter of the burner of the mess kit? I know where the mess kit is, I can see it. But getting to it.... There's a car in the way & it isn't mine. BTW: The simmer ring from a Tatonka stove suits the Swedish M40 burner.
I’m hesitant to respond to this because I’m away from home on holiday and in a non-stove environment. I can’t apply a micrometer but:- I keep two burners in my M40. One original military by Trangia and one (70%) smaller domestic Trangia burner bought as a separate item rather than part of a kit. I have been using the same domestic simmer ring on both burners for years.
M40 Enmanskök (Aluminum version) M7479-101000-3 KOKKÄRL M40AL M40 Enmanskök (Stainless Steel version) M7479-102000-2 KOKKÄRL M40RFR M44 Enmanskök (Aluminum version) M7479-101000-3 KOKKÄRL M40AL KFS Standard issue 1966 M2824-001119-4 SPRITBRÄNNARE (Alcohol burner) 9 cm Swedish military Alcohol Burner same in the Jagerkok M2824-001129-3 VINDSKYDD M STÖD (windscreeen with supports) all are aluminum M7061-800600-0 FLASKA 3DL Rodsprit M7061-800600-0 FLASKA 3DL SPRIT 35 (yellow label) Alcohol fuel bottle 1 lt Rodsprit Alcohol fuel bottle 1 lt SPRIT 35 (yellow label) M2824-051159 Strap Kåsa Cup rounded handle end (Kåsa Cup for Jagerkok has square end) Swedish army Tin Can opener (similar to US P51 or UK opener) Dish Cloth 1988 M2824-064148-7 Civilian Alcohol Burner 7.5cm (made for new Jagerkok but works) I'm still looking for stock numbers for the KFS, 1 lt bottles, and the 2 different Kåsa Cups if anyone has those.
now that ^^^ is a content-rich comment, thank you. to credit source(s) would be nice. ---- Re this Cal comment just above and his: ...M40AL and ...M40RFR. aka M/40 AL and M/40 RFR (stainless) i post this^^^ here-now jus for x-ref search purpose (cuz a "M40RFR" search doesn't get to M/40 RFR, for example). views 78,425 !! way-to-go @Joe ! (it's a Joe May 2007 thread)
