The Official Pigeon Ignus Thread

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  1. xavi_242

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    OK, since those little french stoves are some kind of trend in the stove scene, and they are pretty amazing pieces, with so much variations from one model to another, I decided to gather some information in one thread.

    Please, feel free to post here your specifications, just to try to trace all the mods in this unique stove.

    I have at the moment 4 units, not for many time though... ;)

    I'm just guessing about the number stamped in the firewall... Serial number? Model number? Anyway, this is my way to identify my 4 stoves...

    Let's start with the case. All cases are the same except for the lid, which some are blank, some had Ignus trade mark on it, and another one has a 'bump'.

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    PIGEON IGNUS script common on all models
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    Then let's take a look at the tank-burner assy.

    #1 circlip pliers style NRV nut, thick burner tube from tank, roarer burner, straight burner bell
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    #2 features a rare burner with a thin tube coming from the upper area of the tank doing a 180º curve down to the jet casting, smaller and curved bell, slotted NRV nut and roarer version (??)
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    #3 is the common seen silent burner, thin tube coming from the tank
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    #4 same as #3 (but a lot clean)
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    Aerial view to compare...
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    upper hole in #2, nut screws over the firewall, extra washers at little firewall screws
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    #3 features both firewall holes
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    Accesories on #4, the very desired pot support, 'red' regulating key and some brass tool (??)
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    Gathered together, just for fun!
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  2. David Shouksmith

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    Great post! - none of them ever flew my way, however... :cry:
     
  3. Doc Mark

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    Good Evening, Xavi,

    This is a wonderful post, and I really appreciate your showing all your Pigeons, sitting side by side on the wire (table!). Excellent stuff, and I really appreciate your efforts to share this with us!! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc

    P.S. Wonderful photos, too!! :thumbup: 8) :clap: :D
     
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    Wow!!!

    Likely the only flock of pigeons that I would welcome!!!

    Thank you very much for the informative post, though I don't think I will ever need to identify anything in my own meagre collection.....

    Best regards,

    Mike.
     
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    Thanks for the positive comments fellows!

    Here are the Ignus in the gallery, I would like to see more examples and to know the number stamped on the firewall... :D

    iani's #19.835 example

    This stove features the double hole in the firewall... like my #3...
    Paul's example

    The following two stoves seem to be what are late versions, with the filter attached, and silent burners (high stamped numbers may prove what seems to be the serial number??)
    #26.371 Martin T's example

    Note curved tube from tank on that one. Brass tank too.
    Big BTU's examples

    Another high numbered one w/ brass tank and side filter
    #30.945 Spiritburner's example (also Motoshi Makino examples)
     
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  6. xavi_242

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    A couple examples of instructions sheet, I would like to know actual size... anyone??

    INSTRUCTIONS
     
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    This one has a thin straight tube, one hole in the firewall and number 15715 - Link

    Terry
     
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    Wonderful stuff! High on my want list, low on the probability list!
     
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    Cool little stoves! The burner of #2 seems quite interesting.
     
  10. berserker

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    Xavi_242

    Almost one year ago on 12/21/2013, you posted a question on the pros and cons of the Pigeon Ignus. Remember? Well, it looks like you have been busy acquiring Pigeons! hahaha. When you posted a year ago, I started to take notice of this stove and liked it. Interesting stove and extraordinary. Monsieur Charles Pigeon was an interesting character, in his own right.

    There are some books about the man found here:

    LINK

    Let us know how you find the Pigeon Ignus versus expectations about the stove. thanks,

    Jim
     
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    Hi Jim,

    good observer... ;)

    This is the kind of stove that I just felt in love when I first saw it... I like the design or better I like the look. The shape of the case is amazing, which reminds us to a US postal box or a lunch box. Also, the end product once placed in operation mode looks killer, different to all other kind of stoves...

    What I expected from what other owners told me:

    - tank gets hot
    - not much powerful

    My personal review:

    - Case made from aluminium can be easily re-shaped and polished if it has dents (aluminium thickness is pretty thin so many of the examples are quite bent or with dents).
    - Tank and burner assy fit very tight in the case, so it is kind of tricky to put or take it from the case, specially with the pot holder under the tank.
    - Burner bell not removable makes tricky to get the little jet removed.
    - Pot support surfaces (4 little corners) are too much away one from each other, being impossible to put small coffee pots or cups.
    - Not much powerful
    - Tank gets pretty hot
    - Heat isolated control knob makes easier to regulate (specially if you don't like to be putting and taking the control key every time... (what happens with metal keys)

    That may seem a pretty negative opinion, I have to say that all that little negative points are over passed by its wonderful construction.

    I love the stove, It is just in top of my favorites list...
    Just my modest opinion...
     
  13. berserker

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    Xavi,

    Excellent review! Thank you for sharing your thoughts about this nice stove. Your photos and information is much appreciated. As I mentioned previously, this stove caught my eye almost a year ago with your questions and I decided then that it is indeed unique.

    From your post, I especially like the part where you said...

    "Also, the end product once placed in operation mode looks killer, different to all other kind of stoves..."

    Doc has one (or more? hahaha) coming and I am sure he will provide more information on his experiences with the Pigeon Ignus.

    I also recently purchased a Pigeon Ignus, but it has not arrived at my home. I will post pictures when received. I want to continue to research the stove and learn more about it. Your post about the power of the stove is good to know. The part about tank heat is also well known. I think the pot support from looking at it will not allow for a small espresso pot or tea kettle. Larger base is better, but not a plus.

    Thanks for starting the thread and I hope you enjoy the holiday season. :)

    Jim
     
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    Hi everyone,

    as my daily stove for the past weeks I've been using my silent burner Pigeon (#22.406). I use it indoors and on cooler days I found it harder to start (having to fill the preheat cup 2-3 times to get it started with a small weak flame). Then after it starts, the flame becomes more powerful as the stove gets hotter.
    Could this be a clogged wick?

    Yesterday I kind of fettled the rare #12.619 (the one with the burner tube coming from the upper side of the tank). I placed temporary a burner from a russian tourist 8R clone.
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    As you can see, it burns OK, not perfect, though.
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  15. blabast88 France

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    Hi @xavi_242 ,

    Nice post you have started here ;)
    I'm gathering as much infos as I can about this stove, trying to clear out the many questions around. Not a simple task, but I have the chance to live in France and I could already gather some documentation about it.

    I can say without any hesitation that your number 2 (12619) is a rarer alcohol version. This model came in two different options: alcohol and gasoline. The alcohol version has the pipe coming from the upper part of the tank, and passing through the burner. Be careful: I suppose you used gasoline to make your stove work? Prefer alcohol in that one, I'm not so sure about safety if you use it burning gasoline...

    Bastien
     
  16. Nicola Francesco Elia

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    @blabast88 could please share with us from where you got the information that the pigeon with upper passing tube is for alcohol?

    Thanks!