some MSR Fuel Bottles

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  1. OMC

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    The earliest MSR stoves were paired with SIGG fuel bottles.
    "MSR" fuel bottle was first offered in 1981, per Cascade website.
    I'm thinking the one on the left was the first. More later on the one on the right (both are fairly rare).
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    This first one is unique with the print graphic being applied to a thin plastic, the plastic wraps snugly around the bottle.
    When/if the plastic were to come off the bottle then has the " look" of a bare aluminum SIGG fuel bottle. It does however, have "MSR" embossed on the bottom.
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    Actually what prompted my post is to share the brand new 50th Anniversary MSR Fuel Bottle !!!,
    a replica of the original. This is the new one that has just been offered for this season. The print graphics are painted-on. It comes with child proof cap.
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    credit Larry Penberthy: climber, innovator, inventor and 1969 founder of MSR.
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    Now back to that early fuel bottle on the right in my OP.
    That blue, on silver paint, version may have been the 2nd version MSR made. That exact version was offered in 3 painted-on color schemes. 4 views of same 3 bottles.
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    Re: the early examples above:
    -they're 22oz size only,
    -do not have any warning,
    -have "made in USA",
    -have the earliest type cap,
    -have the same tooling w/inner circle (encircles the S of the embossed MSR) and a faint outer circle.
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    Next I share a version I had overlooked until preparing this post …
    MSR added: > the *11 oz. size and > a WARNING. There's more details but here they are...
    (*I don't know if any 33oz. were offered at this time?).
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    Re only the 22oz on the left, the only difference is the added WARNING / and addl text. So it's bottom has the same tooling as all the early examples, here's that.
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    Ok, so I ALSO just NOTICE the 11oz bottle, off to far right, is 20th Anniversary bottle 1969-1989. I happen to have 11oz, "Anniversary" logo aside it is identical to the 1 to it's left.
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    I presume this anniversary edition was also offered in 22oz , (on my wish list).
    Again, I don't know if 33 oz was offered.

    About this new 11oz example: Note A. "made in USA" is absent, B. although it contains all the exact same print graphics as the 22 oz (missing USA, yes)… the carry-over graphics were re-arranged? A&B: being just a couple peculiar details.

    This is the added warning & text btw:
    "WARNING -- USE ONLY MSR FUEL BOTTLES WITH YOUR MSR STOVE"...… <--that and
    "Use of non-MSR fuel bottles with any MSR stove may result in fuel leakage and/or separation of the fuel bottle from the pump. This would create an extreme fire hazard. It is mandatory that you read the instruction manual prior to using your stove."
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    I have shared above all the early versions of MSR fuel bottles. MSR settled on RED for a basic retail fuel bottle, more to come on that.

    At some point after the above examples MSR, meanwhile, also made many many different versions. There were changes along the way: tooling, a new type of cap (in black and grey), bar codes etc. etc.
    I'd be remiss not to emphasize plenty versions made for military issue.
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    MSR's basic retail, red fuel bottles continued:
    On the next example the tooling and labeling changes including "made in USA" now absent on all 3 (coming below, more of the same).
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    thx omc
     
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  2. Afterburner

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    Early ones are nice with retro colors! You have a fine set of good quality fuel bottles.

    First ones seems to have a rolled 'mouth'. Later ones seems to have machined 'mouth'.
     
  3. OMC

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    Old Thread,
    Elsewhere on site was recently said "... there are no warnings about this [use with alcohol] on either the bottle or in their **literature" .
    (**I will not (here, now) provide additional warning details from MSR literature or from online).

    My comment re above, there are warnings on MSR bottles.
    I will add here the details from the bottles re "added warnings":
    MSR has always included text/warnings on fuel bottles re proper use. The following lines of text are sourced from MSR fuel bottles, sequenced over many years of production:

    1st fuel bottle, only warns: "Do not use for storing or transporting acidic juices or drinks".
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    "...bottle designed to store and transport fuels for backpacking stoves … and any other fuel powered equipment. Do not use for storing or transporting acidic juices or drinks."
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    "Use of non-MSR fuel bottles with any MSR stove may result in fuel leakage and/or separation of the fuel bottle from the pump. This would create an extreme fire hazard. … This MSR Fuel Bottle is designed to store and transport petroleum fuels for backpacking and camping stoves, lanterns, heaters etc. Do not use this bottle for alcohol or for acidic beverages. " [pre barcode btw]
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    [do not fill above fill line]
    "Use of non-MSR bottles with MSR stoves may cause fuel leaks and/or separations of fuel bottle from pump. This would create an extreme fire hazard. Over-filling bottle could create high pressures when temperature changes, causing fuel leak and fire hazard. Do not fill fuel above fill line. This bottle is meant for gasoline, kerosene, diesel and other petroleum type fuels only. Do not store alcohol because bottle may corrode. Do not use for beverages." [round mtn logo and bar code]
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    "DANGER - USE ONLY MSR FUEL BOTTLES WITH YOUR MSR STOVE
    Use of non-MSR fuel bottle with an MSR stove may cause fuel leaks and/or separation from the pump. This would cause extreme fire hazard. Do not fill above fill line. Over-filling could create extreme pressure in rising temperatures, causing fuel leaks and fire hazards. This bottle is only for storing and transporting gasoline, kerosene, diesel and other petroleum fuels. Bottle may corrode if used to store alcohol. Not for beverages." [by now, round mtn logo ended]
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    "DANGER: Leaking fuel is hazardous and may result in fire leading to property damage, personal injury or death. … replace [worn/damaged] O-rings before using stove. … Do not fill above fill line. Over-filling may lead to extreme pressure during hot temperatures, resulting in leaking fuel and risk of fire. [in re to air travel ] .. For petroleum fuels only. Not intended for beverages or alcohol."
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    thx omc
     
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    Thanks @OMC
    I stand corrected.
     
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    Who (or what) is Cliff?
    I have two "flat bottom" MSR bottles, 11oz, as pictured below.
    Stamped along the outer edge of the bottom, under the paint, is: CLIFF 91 A72
    Anyone know the reasoning for this? Perhaps the worker who was making the bottles on that shift? Date code of some kind (1991) perhaps?
    Anyone else have something similar, perhaps a different name or different coding?
    The few "round bottom" MSR bottles I have do not have any stampings.

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    I have this strange bottle that I bought second-hand five years ago. It just says MSR on the raised background. it is the same color and fits perfectly on MSR and Optimus caps. Will it be generic?


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    Missing the Miltary bottles, and maybe more....
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  8. OMC

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    old thread
    @Hazet 13 mos. ago you asked about "Cliff" etc., MANY months later i think i had checked each of the ones i have. Uneventful.
    re your: "I have two "flat bottom" MSR bottles, 11oz, as pictured below.
    Stamped ... under the paint, is: CLIFF 91 A72
    Anyone else have something similar ...
    ?

    Being under the paint is an interesting anomaly, yours is the only one I'm aware of. I have no guess as to meaning or code but it may well have been stamped in 1991.
    The type of graphics like yours (w/bar code) are present above. Now that YOU mention it, .. your "flat bottom" example is not represented above. Yours does fit between two types above, yours seems to be, the earliest versions with that graphic, the ones i show came after yours (after a tooling change).
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    @Daryl
    You just posted a couple pics, source, that is good input/content and right on topic here. I've taken the liberty of adding your ebay images to this thread, i hope that's ok. I thank you sir.
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    Far above is the 20th anniversary and Daryl has shown us his 25th anniversary, one he had (& now archived here). It is good to know this 11 oz. says "Bottle made in Canada" also being 1994, that gives us an idea for timeframe MSR was using that type graphic.
    Ok, TMI but i double checked a 22 & 33 w/this graphic both were also Canadian. Thank you
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    After the earliest few i then went with the MSR basic red fuel bottles. Others and military are NOT included, by choice, in this thread of "some" MSR fuel bottles.
    As i mentioned "...MSR, meanwhile, also made many many different versions. There were changes along the way: tooling, a new type of cap (in black and grey), bar codes etc. etc.
    I'd be remiss not to emphasize plenty versions made for military issue
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    @Jose
    Hi, I am writing to CCS for the first time.
    I heard that this bottle was distributed to firefighters by the US government.
    I don't understand English, so I use translation software.

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    Welcome to CCS.
     
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    @mojo Welcome to CCs.

    Wow!

    interesting information I already know something about its origin, thank you.
     
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    Frankly speaking, I expected the replica bottle as made in USA not same as the current/recent bottles from MSR, however this replica is made in China as same as usual bottles now.
    Of course with a sentence- nasty California warnings... p65blah

     
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    Thanks!

    I'm also investigating, but I've confirmed three types. I want to know if there are more.

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    All: I can't help but wonder whatever became of the Titanium MSR fuel bottles? Pricey at the time, with long travel experience having MSR bottles get dented, I wonder if the Ti would resist dents better...not an idle cosmetic issue, as mine all get used as pressurised fuel cylinders with MSR stoves!
     
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    Titanium can be brittle, so bottle may split, rather than just dent like an aluminum one.

    ….Arch
     
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    bump
    In beginning of post, the bottles appear in the sequence they came out.
    I regret not making very clear the point in the sequence that the use of bar code began.
    A bottle JUST sold on ebay and I've learned something new (to me).
    The early SILVER scheme (black on silver), i "thought" was just that, early, only 22 oz.
    and pre-bar code. "Pre bar code" can be helpful descriptor. Eventually a date will be attributed to 1st use of bar codes.

    News to me, update is this 22 oz. silver bottle with bar code. It's lettering is a match to a red version shown above. I post this now as I was unaware SILVER bottles reappeared or continued later. Until today, if I saw a silver MSR fuel bottle (black on silver or blue on silver). I presumed SILVER indicated it is early / among earliest MSR bottle (oops). This is my something new learned today, here are the only pics i have of said example:

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    As for rarity, it still holds SILVER bottles this one or earlier versions, silver are more rare than red or later versions.
     
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    I have not seen any MSR stoves or bottles sold on E bay in a while that are rare to find. Oldest stove I saw was a G and saw a Titanium bottle several months ago.
     
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    @mojo woow it's the twin sisters of my bottle
     
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    Hi, everyone, first post on CCS, but I was looking up information on an MSR bottle I'd forgotten I had and just recently found. Here's a 20th Anniversary silver and black MSR fuel bottle I thought I'd share...

    It was purchased new at the REI in Sacramento for a Whisperlite Internationale stove ('Internationale' is what the box says, anyway...still trying to determine if it's the same as an International?) which we still have :content:


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  20. Yun124

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    Nice bottles collection!
    I've the same, without the origin declaration, 11oz smaller one Red colored MSR.
    Maybe the origin declaration is the mandatory matter, don't know why it was removed... just by a mistake?
    Cool! @raxxter