Hi all I found a Coleman stove n° 523 I presume USAMD is for Medical Départment ? What could be the production year ? AS it have been found in Normandie, i think this could be war stove the box is made of steel Do you agree ?
United States Army Medical Department USAMD Look closely where the name is there may be a date on the same plate. These were used in army hospitals to sterilize medical equipment. It is quite possible it is a wartine stove. The military designation was Stove, two-burner, M1942.
I've never seen a wrench like that associated with a 523. Perhaps someone used it for the fuel cap? https://www.oldcolemanparts.com/diagrams/523.jpg
Thank you. Very nice. As for Normandy/Normandie connection as enticing as that is, myself, would focus on stove with that aside. Just a guess: I lean to, it is original as shown and do lean to us returning to probable/possible WW2 Normandy connection, for now myself I say: too soon to say. Here is open related question for "western front" WW2 buffs: What (month) year were WW2 supplies no longer passing thru / near Normandy? I ask with the impression a much better shipping port of entry became availabe soon after initial invasion. ----------- I'm unaware of distinction spelled out for *year ranges or re specified use of steel case (hinged) vs aluminum/SS case (lid is SS, no hinge). Both could have been marked for medical dept use (examples of both linked below), or not. *unconfirmed but get the impression the steel case was eventually discontinued. ----------- Years ago I did some review/research of the early Coleman versions prior to a purchase, after purchase the research left off still unclear re production decade even (let alone year estimate). I am certain, with what we've seen to-date, progress can be made on that front (by approx. decade earlier vs later). The approx. book end years of the production run (2 decades plus?) may already be here somewhere, anyone? I just had another look in gallery. Of many, some are A. year stamped. There are examples... B. w/o year, included in those are C. ones stamped USAMD (i've not yet seen stove stamped with USAMD and it's year). As for B. year unknown within those threads the production year question is often asked and is left unanswered. As for C. it may be as simple (& sad) as the decision then being, to make room for USAMD stamp, they did not year stamp those ones? arghhh. each "had" excellent paperwork, now lost. Re the USAMD stamping i can only guess, just maybe U.S.A.M.D. no space after USA (in OP above, steel case), might be earlier, a predecessor to U.S.A...M.D. "with space" after USA, ie steel case and maybe that one preceded the U S A...M D , ie link suggests after '49 pre '58 a larger, medical, kit Related examples steel case labeled medical 1951 date btw The metal casing heavy duty is heavier than stove aluminum/SS case stamped medical
They are the same burner as used on the 520 stove. They are not difficult to work on. If something seems stuck use penetrating oil and patience. The packing on the valve stem is a standard large packing, new generators are available either from OCP or ebay. OCP should have all the parts you need. The pump leather is the same as for a 220 lantern and all 1945-1980 Coleman suitcase stoves. Look on Coleman Collector's Forum, search for 520 and 523 disassembly threads, should be something there. If you have any mechanical ability just look at it for a few minutes and think about how it works and you'll see how it comes apart. Look at the diagram I posted. If you have no mechanical ability come back and ask questions. I don't mean that sarcastically, I have some very successful, smart friends who can't figure out how a hammer and nail work.
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I know this is a really old thread but I'm hoping that OMC is still active. Based on your post #6 above you know a lot about 523s. I'd like to share with you what I've done so far to catalog 523 stoves (and the other companies that also made them) and hope for some constructive feedback. Kevin
@KMC welcome, thank you. re OMC, "I'd like to share with you what I've done so far to catalog 523 stoves (and the other companies that also made them) and hope for some constructive feedback..." it would be a mistake to direct discussion to/for just you & I. i did suggest a sequence above and DO have an interest, as others do as well, to gain better understanding. just looking in this thread (and there are many related threads). i defer to chb cottagehillbill for 523 details. CCS can and should be welcoming, supportive site for your effort. this thread is in the stove forum so this IS a good place for any 523 discussion chat Q&A etc you have on your mind. Fire away.. re your: catalog 523 stoves do you have suggestion for dating details? above i guess for the USAMD examples that: "U.S.A.M.D. no space after USA (in OP above, steel case), might be earlier" can you share related findings you are suggesting? active members know (most accept) when searching for answers, mistakes are made along the way (and usually find more questions (vs answers)). PLEASE do not get discouraged you have embarked on a worthy topic and you're in the right place. thanks again and WELCOME PS I am actually a snob (you can quote me). a Coleman-snob when it comes to WW2 US army issue. myself, i tend to complete review/research of Coleman primarily and view AGM and others secondarily (for WW2 US Army).
Thanks for the reply. And I agree with you that working via the forum is the best approach. Here's what I've done so far. I've used multiple search engines to find photos of stoves (e.g, CCS, CCF, both the fir sale and sold archives of eBay) and focused on photos that show date imprints. (My science background makes me want empirical evidence). I'm now putting together a spreadsheet of info eg. Manufacturer, dates, tank tank types, colors, types spare parts containers, filler cap locations, etc. I hope to finish and post soon. As you and others have pointed out a big uncertainty will be that period where Coleman stopped putting dates on Stoves. More to come soon.
