A small clue to the unknown "IDEAL"/"GENIUS"

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  1. multi-cho

    multi-cho Korea, Republic of Subscriber

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    I saw SPRINT BURNER's catalog a long time ago and was deeply impressed.

    I've been looking for this a lot since then./but
    I've never seen a stove that actually exists.

    However, clues that existed were found in two places.
    Sweden Technical Museum and "STADSMUSEUM".
    The real burner is in the Technical Museum.

    for the whole stove
    The typography is in the StadsMuseum.

    It is a place I would like to visit if I can go there someday.

    A small clue, but
    Someday I will share it for others.
    ID-0.jpg ID-00.jpg ID-000.jpg ID-1.jpg ID-2.jpg ID-3.jpg ID-4.jpg ID-5.jpg ID-6.jpg
     
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    Very interesting thank you for posting.
    Nick
     
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    Thanks for reading.
     
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    @multi-cho thank you.
    To clarify, you are saying the image of the actual burner (w/hex base) is a (Sweden) Technical Museum piece?

    There's good news btw, you will see more actual examples below.
    Where??? where else, on CCS!! Thanks Ross.

    re your: I've been looking for this a lot since then./but
    I've never seen a stove that actually exists.
    However, clues that existed were found in two places.
    Sweden Technical Museum and "STADSMUSEUM".
    The real burner is in the Technical Museum.


    FYI the specific text is important to improve search results and for future cross-reference.
    ...clues that existed were found in two places.
    Until this moment a CCS search for [ genius burner ] and [ Forgasningsapparater ] was no help to you.

    A CCS search for [ Förgasningsapparater ] ... the one letter, ö, change everything and
    will point
    here> 1921 (or earlier) AB Förgasningsapparater - Burners
    and
    here credit Optipri via Ross.
    Making it multiple addl. details for you, now within 4-5 sources. There may be more.

    I'll note a few things:
    I think your image confirms it is c 1921 and earlier as Ross suspected.
    Earlier due to we now see 3 or more versions of the burner:
    time-wise: note early winged base (vs later hex).
    and
    silent vs roarer: Most? examples the silent cap may not be depicted, may be roarer?

    Lastly, a swedish burner c 1921 made from steel and cast iron was the exception (on CCS) not the norm.
    All Förgasningsapparater burner versions are rare. Maybe the steel is the reason why? More durable yes but the necessary thermal conductivity is poor with steel/iron vs brass.
    Brass is much better.
    Iron/steel in this case may be setback only outdoor/cold priming? I dunno but many months does get plenty cold in Sweden.
     
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    @OMC

    Thank you for your interest.

    I remember a post by 'Yonadav' a while ago.

    but it
    I think it's a similar burner that has nothing to do with "IDEAL" burners.
    1) There is no carbon removal bolt on the upper part.
    2) The nozzle bottom is different.
    3) The shape of the head transfer pipe bolt is different.
    So I think it's a similar copy.