Couldn't resist this! It's been labelled on ebay as a Jolp spirit burner, but looks to me like a purpose-built iron frame containing two pressurised burners - maybe Optimus 45As? Apologies for pics, but haven't collected it yet, so relying on ebay photos. Anyone any ideas?
only other info on ad was as follows JOLP Spirit Burner 52 cm Long 27 cm Wide 23 cm High Blue Enamelled Couple of small chips but no cracks in the cast As far as we know it works but havent used it ourselves Knowing my luck it'll be something from a wendy-house, and the measurements were in fact in mm!
Hey, Andy, I looks great, no matter what it is!! Well done!! I bet it'll clean up nicely, and once you get the stoves cleaned, polished, and fettled, I'm sure you're going to love it!! Thanks for sharing it here with us, Mate!! 8) Take care, and God Bless! Every Good Wish, Doc
8-[ I've sussed it for about three seconds and have decided you bought a piece of junk. Since i have more junk then anyone else on the forum it behoves you to send it to me that i may increase my junk. These being totally useless to anyone other than a junk collector i am by far the best person to manage this bit of usless cast iron and brass. Or just keep it, clean it up (thereby saving me lots of hard work) and then sell it to me with the intent of making me a very rich man. Others will tell you i'm just trying to get my hands on a bit of treasure but i assure you i really want to save you from yourself. lance Great score there lad. When it's all fettled and burning proper show us some pix please. These could verywell be spirits burners but i'd give them a good once over to make sure. lp
Hi Andy, These enamelled cast iron stands were made by a number of manufacturers, mainly French I believe, to hold stoves and make a "range" for domestic or small restaurant use. Have a look at this 1929 Primus French catalogue to see similar offerings. You seem to have bought a very nice 1920s/30s kitchen range. It will be interesting to know which make and model stove were used. They look to be 1.75 "discus" stoves, and do I see an external NRV on one of them? Best Regards, Kerophile.
The same idea: https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/114596 https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/131638 Best Regards, Kerophile
Hmmm - fettling an enamelled cast iron frame. Never done that! Presumably just clean and polish (and touch up any chips if they've penetrated to the metal with some rust prevention stuff- Kurust or similar.) Iron pot stands - electrolysis (never done that either!) prime and paint with heat-resistant black paint. And (brief) vinegar bath to start with on the stoves - guess what - never done that either! Alternatively, just soak the pump cups in oil and fire it up
NO, No, no lad you must send it to me for proper reconstruction into something equally usefull, but only usefull to me. That will save you much anguish and excessive ammounts of hard work and frustration passing that same frustration on to my shoulders which were designed by God for just such a purpose. lance
Don't fear the voltage, Andy Why anyone sands stuff is beyond me... I look at it like this: Now I got rust working FOR me! Sweet catch, that could be a total cookin' unit. I see a wok on the left burner giving the duck breasts in black bean the good news and the right powering a rice and veg steamer That's the sort of thing you build a niche for next to the BBQ.
right - I've picked it up! Frame is complete and remarkably untouched - a nice blue enamel, with only a couple of minor chips. The burner rings are in perfect condition bar a little surface rust. Mucky though. And it is beautifully shaped to take the two stoves, including a securing screw/wingnut for each stove. It is labelled JOLP top and bottom of the long side, and on the short sides it says MODELE BREVETE. The stoves - according to the engraving on them - are SVEA 101s (also with an engraving of "SIEVERT" surrounded with what I presume are supposed to be flames (like zigzag lines surrounding SIEVERT). Some writing on the bottom, but its covered with bits of muck, so difficult to read other than Stockholm at the moment. On the one I've taken out so far, it appears to be totally complete (as does the other), including both inner and outer silent burner caps (the outer burner cap has some writing on it - some visible under the gunk - Special..No 859 and Stockholm. The primer cup has a mini-"cup" on one side with a shield on the inside, presumably to provide additional pre-heating. Other than the accumulated gunk, everything seems to be present and in excellent nick (at least externally)- even the burners and pre-heaters aren't dented or out of true. No obvious splits anywhere. The pump of course doesn't pressurise - I'm guessing this has been in a loft or garage for decades. The fuel cap also has a little "paddle-screw" - presumably to depressurise without taking the cap off. That at least moves freely! And it has an external relief valve. I haven't yet tried to remove the pump or fuel cap - probably will need a bit of gentle persuasion - certainly more than finger tight! The legs are all present, nicely capped at the top with little hemispheres. I'll try to get some pictures on tomorrow. Anyone any idea of age? I'm assuming these are kerosene/paraffin stoves, not "spirit" stoves as advertised! Must admit to being a bit worried about refurbishing this lot - as this will be my first "fettling" job!
Andy Nice find. I have a single Svea 101. See here: https://classiccampstoves.com/threads/16081 Yours are the only other ones I've seen. Ross did say he thought mine had come from a "range", turns out he was right. Definately a paraffin stove and quite old (external NRV). Good luck with the fettle
Hi Gary Thanks for that. Did you ever get around to fettling yours? Love to see the pics! Mine are nearly identical, apart from the spirit cup "hood". Mine are both truncated - just a small hood- maybe a half-inch high. I'll try to get some pics of them tonight in their unrestored condition!
Andy I was hoping to have it done for the North East meet in january but time got away from me. I've sourced a leg and done a preliminary clean and polish on the burner and riser. I'm sure I'll get it done before the summer.
I've managed to remove both pumps and one fuel cap so far (the second cap will require a bit more oomph. Washers were drier than a very dry thing - even found bits of very old cobwebs under the fuel cap! Currently got the washers soaking in peanut oil, and I've also used it to lubricate the air release screw-things and the inside of the fuel cap. Haven't tackled the external NRVs yet - need my spanners from the garage as its bucketing down here at the moment. I've used a tangerine to rub some citric acid (I hope it's citric acid - all I've got in the fridge at present!) on one tank to see if that'll get rid of some of the gunk - will wash it off in 20 minutes to see if it works. It looks like the pump shaft is made of steel (not brass) as there's a few spots of surface rust on a few places.
