New York Primus 1

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    I just purchased this stove on eBay. It has some ornate writing on the tank and the fill cap says "New York". I can't find anything like it in the Reference Gallery. Anyone have any information about it?

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    Hi Ben,

    I have an identical one, minus the cast-iron top. There's an ad for it here in the archive from an 1899 sports magazine, quite a find...
     
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    Hi Ben nice score,
    I guess Primus US is stove of the day, this is 2nd post today. You can find Primus US info among the Primus info, here's a catalog I think is featuring your stove as well. Looks like brass legs, if they are I hadn't recalled an example like that, interesting. thx omc
     
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    @igh371 @OMC @abbahco1

    Thank you all so much. This stove of Spiritburner is exactly the same. I had no idea it was that old and it will easily the oldest stove in my collection. I haven't received the stove yet. Those photos came from the auction. Hopefully, I'll be able to get it up an running.

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    Wonderful stove, Ben.
    The cast iron trivet has exactly the same pattern as on this stove and this one.
     
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    Hi Ben, Your post invites chat and like others I'm QUITE impressed w/your ancient stove.
    I want to share a curiosity re tank size.
    Optimus for example, IF and WHEN they refer to fuel capacity, IF the amounts are accurate it is then
    we know a stove model's tank size (or we can measure it ourselves). Swedish stoves can be referred to by their size (total tank size): Imp. pints (or liters), some examples being 2 1/4 pint, 2 pint, 1 3/4 pint, 1 pint and 1/2 pint.

    Size details repeatedly mentioned associated w/your stove is: reservoir 1 quart of fuel.
    They refer to temperature in Fahrenheit so I think the 1 quart they refer to is a US Quart. What do you think?
    IF it were slightly larger tank and 1 quart reservoir was referring to it's
    >>>suitable filling 1 2/3 pint (1 US qt.)<<< then stove size would be comparable with a 2 pint stove (like No.57 you just got). That is conjecture, you will have it in-hand an I'd be curious how you think it compares size-wise.

    About Swedish stoves of the time, the discus tanks are SO SWEET aren't they. 1905 Primus 100, 215 & 216, and the 1912 Optimus 100, 45 & 48 per their catalogs are all ONE LITER discus tanks (1 3/4 pint)...
    oh, but wait 1917 Optimus 100, 45 & 48 per catalog became 2 pint stoves. The tanks may have changed but imo it is as likely, all that was changed was the catalog... consistently accurate, they are not.
    For example, that 1917 Optimus 100/45/48 2 pint discus stove ALSO has
    >>>suitable filling 1 2/3 pint <<< .

    Tank size details can be quite elusive. In the 30's or later Optimus really did change the size of their discus tank btw.
    thx omc
     
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    Yes it is the same pattern but not exactly the same trivet.

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    Ben,
    Of course Trevor knew that, he was just seeing if we were paying attention.

    His links do again enlighten us to the brass/bronze coating which is present on your stove.
    I am probably mistaken above as well suggesting the legs are brass, they may be steel and coated like the trivet, you will see when you get it.
    If they're steel legs that still have factory coating, oh man, I don't want to say unfired but maybe yet another bonus of your ancient example is that it has seen very little use?
    thx omc