Search for self contained Kero burning stoves

So, the stove bug has bit a younger generation of the family. My son, who as all boys are, is fascinated by stoves and the ability to make fire. Of all the stoves I tinker with he is quite fond of the hiker/111 type. He's not careless and has no problems handling the start up procedure or a paraffin/kerosene fueled 111. He is quite keen on getting his own. I'm not going to get him an alcohol, white gas, or cartridge type stove. I feel I have less fuel spill/burning related injuries to worry about if it's kerosene fueled. So I'm now trying to find a stove that he likes. He seems (as do I) to like stoves that are a self contained unit. No separate bottles, nothing like that. I want one that's a bit lighter than the 5lbs my hiker takes up in a pack. This, to my knowledge leaves the Ranger 10, the 199, and a maaaaybe a kero 111. The ranger 10 is both of our favorite of the lot, but it is IMPOSSIBLE to find.. The 199 is a second bet, but they are a bit pricey.

My question is what other stoves are there that burn kerosene/paraffin oil and can be packed up into their own shell/box?

 

I'm a big fan of the Shinabro Royal.



John

 

Hey, John,

I HAVE to have one of those neat Shinabro Royal stoves!!! Thanks for sharing this one, and for your original post, which I just saw for the first time!! Lovely bit of design work, and the execution and quality of the South Korean stoves is fantastic!! The hunt is on!! Take care, and God Bless!

Every Good Wish,
Doc

 

A definite improvement over others with the integrated pump. Does it have a Korean name or was it sold to an English speaking market only?

 

@Brassaxe - and Hi Doc!

From the Manufacturers List here on the site:-

South Korea Shin A Ind. Co. Shinabro

I'm pretty sure it was sold worldwide as a Shinabro 400C, possibly without the 'Royal' name in some countries - although since the full name is stamped on the lid, maybe not.

John

 

Hey, John,

Thanks for the additional info! And, the hunt begins....!

Mark

 

I, too, am the proud owner of a Shinabro Royal, although I have not fired it.

Tony

 

I'm guessing.. haha and it's just a guess, the possibility of finding a Shinabro is less than a Ranger 10. I'll go through all methods of searching for the next few months so who knows.

Any more ideas for a self contained kerosene stove? Cylindrical might even be an option.

 

Brassa..,

You are right about the Shinabro. I missed out bidding on one many years ago and have not seen another at an affordable price.

If you want to go in a little different direction, the Coleman 550B handles kerosene very well and it is much lighter than a 111. It does not come in a case but Coleman made a good aluminum case it fits into, and the case double as a cooking container if you care to do so. It comes with two generators, so if you find a used one, make sure it comes with a kero generator or you may have to spend another 10 to $20. Later versions of the same stove have various names that confuse the picture (Exponent, Peak, etc), but except for color and stickers it is the same. Nowhere near as nice as the stoves on your list but it is not hard to find.

Prices for these tend be all over the place, especially for new ones. There is no reason they should be over $60, but I just did a quick look and was surprised to see that many are. And just a note of warning, we hear from a lot of folks that do not have good luck burning kerosene in the Chinese stoves that have a Coleman-like look about them.

 

Well if the Shinabro doesn't work out you might try for a Fuhrmeister 8.



Ben

 

Well, you say self-contained and I know you mean flip-out-and-use but have you considered a classic 1/2 or 1-pint self-contained in its own tin?

Some assembly required...... and it leaves you with a plethora of options.....

I do enjoy the functionability however, of the flip-out or drawer stoves. 111, 111T, 111C, Nomad, Ranger 10, 199, Army No.2/No.12 (heavyweights) etc.
My go-to stove and the one which lives in my rucksack is an 8R (Naptha), backed up with a Primus 96 (Kero) which usually lives in my vehicle.

Food for thought anyway.

Alec.

 

The Fuhrmeister is a "bit" on the heavy side, and the current prices are in the impossible range...
@z1ulike Nice No 8

 

@janders I suggested the Fuhrmeister in case Brassaxe is rich enough to buy one and has a Sherpa to carry it If that won't do, then how about my personal favorite the French Vesta stove. They come up fairly often on eBay.fr and don't go for too much. I agree with this description of the stove.

Ben

 

Brassaxe wants a kerosene fuelled stove though Ben.

John

 

Sorry, I forgot about that.

Ben

 

@Brassaxe I think you should consider availability of spare parts also.

If I might suggest a solution to grow with: 111T.
Lots of spare parts, burns kero, tough, and can progress to petrol when he is ready for it (if he wants to).
My 2 cents...

Edit: How old is your son?

 

@Brassaxe

Do your son a solid man don't disappoint him. Give him a gift for a life time. He doesn't need the old man's stove. Let him know he has the equipment needed to embarrass the "Great Spatula Kahnn" A famous chef that defeated an entire army with a single Souffle' and his grandkids that were the actual inventors of the Stroganoff and Pizza.


Spatula Kahn
"Destroyer of men and pleaser of taste buds!"
Spatula Khan now lives out his days in The Flavor Cave, located on The Unrelatively Unvisited Shoreline in the Unassuming Docks


My vote is a Current generation stove for the Today generation. Optimus Hiker.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Optimus-Hik...932661?hash=item58d4f4c375:g:-3cAAOSwqYBWpkCl

 

I second that notion. The current Hiker+ would fit your son's needs very well.

 

+1 for the Hiker+
@HercL4D2 Excellent argumentation

 

So to reply to all of the above.

I do have a 550 type stove, it's a Feather 400 that I've had for 15+ years.. Granted, it works.. But I tear apart all my stoves regularly and the Coleman... I dunno, I don't dislike Coleman stoves but i'm always wary of the quality. If I were to come across some sort of 520 kerosene variant however, that might change my tune. Speaking of 550b it looks like I could replace the Off/Low/High schraeder valve control on my Feather 400 with the adjustable 550 type knob. It looks like the same exact threads. I might loose the cleaning wire hookup but it's worth a try.

Hmmmm, the Fuhrmeister 8.... For that type of stove i'll need a plan. Most likely involving an extensive fund raising campaign, some celebrity endorsements........

The Vesta might be added to my shopping list now that I look at it. But he says he wants kerosene because it's safer. Interesting that he is young and is concerned for his safety, but thats why i'm on this hunt.


As for the Hiker+.. Yup, good suggestion. Actually great suggestion! However, I have one. My Hiker+ is the exact reason i'm in this predicament. We take it on hikes, camping and whatever else it gets used for. My Hiker+ is the most used and reliable stove I own. (I know the Hiker/Hiker+ gets a bad rap by some but not me.) He watches me disassemble the entire thing every few months, then put it back together and light it up again. It's never once failed on us and I think thats why he likes the box type stoves. He really wants something smaller though. I think because he really wants his own stove to carry in his own pack to the woods and he knows how much a Hiker weighs and how much room it takes up. Not to big of a deal for me, but he'll have a pack 1/2 to 1/3rd the weight of mine.

He doesn't mind having an old generation stove either. He see's me fixing up 90 year old coffee makers, 150 year old axes, and all manner of other older stuff. That might be why he doesn't seem to bat an eye if he knows it's not brand new. We have new equipment, old equipment, no big deal. I have shown him some of the types of stoves we've talked about and if it's dirty he just says we can paint it.