Primus n° 54 burners questions

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  1. Michel

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    Hi all
    I have several questions on this 54 stove:
    I searched the forum, and found what could be the first hint of this stove in 1925
    Am I right?
    This stove have been produced during a long time ...... until what year ?

    I have two Primus 54 M, one is from 1928 (S) the other is from 1932 (W)
    I wonder how the 1928 burner was preheated as there is no preheating cup?
    With a preheating fork ? As Tilley or old french lamps ?

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    The pre-heating cup is mounted on a tube that slides over the burner riser - like a No.96 cup sits on the lipstick burner (one of those with a spacer tube might fit since yours is missing) and isn’t mounted between washers.

    Here’s mine, fitted to a Primus No.50.

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    Thank you @presscall
    I see
    many things to learn about those stove for me ;)

    and what about the years production ?
     
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    1928 as you’ve said sounds about right.
     
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    Sorry I was speaking of the production of the stove all over the years (from circa 1925 to ....?)
     
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    Hi @Michel Thanks to this great work of the late Trevor Halliday:

    Hyperlinked Index
    Swedish Manufacturers

    We can say that the Primus No.54 stove was manufactured from 1925 to 1961.

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    Thanks to this great work of the late Trevor Halliday:
    Hyperlinked Index
    Swedish Manufacturers

    @kerophile , sorry ??? what do you mean ?
    Michel
     
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    @Michel
    Kerophile was referring to a piece of work, the ‘Hyperlinked Index’ reference database here on CCS, that a now-deceased member Trevor (username ‘Shagratork’) compiled. Great contribution from Trevor, a much-liked CCS member and friend to many here, myself included.

    HERE is a link to the Index.
     
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    WOW !!! what a work :clap: thanks to Trevor RIP

    The 54 we find here in France are named 54 M (I presume for Messing)
    They seems to appears only on the 1929 french catalogue ?
    Could it be only (as are the enameled stands) a production for the French Market ?
    the text says "special models to be fitted on cast iron stands"

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    By the way : I just understood what the SE means
    this is for "Socle Emaillé" (enameled stand)
    SB is for "Socle Brut" (non enameled stand)
    French Primus 54SE
     
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    @Michel
    I believe you’re right, that the enamelled frames and stove combinations were produced only for the French market.

    I bought the one on the left at a brocante in Northern France and the other was from an online French source.

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    Hi @presscall
    could you tell me the production years of your stoves ?
    There are not many Primus SE in the reference gallery but I see that the older is 1932
    I have checked the Trevor work about Primus and I don't find any hint of this Primus 54 M in any other
    paper, only on the french 1929 paper
    I wonder if this production have passed the second war,
    perhaps even not so long
     
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    “the Nr 54 I have here is dated 1930.”

    From this thread:

    Heartbreak

    Best Regards,
    Kerophile.
     
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    I have asked to several owners on this site, to tell me the production year of the stoves they own.
    I also asked to a friend who own 2 or 3 n° 54
    Until today, there is no 54 M stove producted after 1932... We shall see later if I have more answers :-k
     
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    Sorry Michel, mine are in ‘deep storage’ - meaning not presently readily to hand.

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    @presscall
    Even if I hope some answers in order to verify my hypothesis
    this is not a urgency, the stoves have almost a century, I can wait :lol: