Help Please - What Stove?

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  1. Shed-man

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    Hi all, I have trawled the Gallery and cannot make a match for this stove. Can anyone help? It is a 1 pint, probably British, with absolutely no markings whatsoever! It has no air release screw, except for the small groove in the filler cap threads which will release pressure. The roarer burner is pretty beat-up and will need some gentle straightening. The tank is really neat and no damage, so I want to get this one working again. Also came legless. Thanks - Steve.

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    Steve

    It looks very similar to this one of Kerophiles down to the same knurling etc. Have you got any legs to it.
    I think you will probably find at least 2 more in the mystery stove section similar.
     
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    Hi Shed-man,

    Veritas produced 1/2 pint stoves with that pressure release arrangement. Early ones were transfer marked rather than engraved or moulded. But not sure I've seen a one pinter from them that wasn't a screw release. A conundrum indeed... :-k

    Another distinctive feature I've just noticed is no boss for parking the travel cap.

    Edit: Hi Iani, good call on Kerophile's mystery stove. However, on his there's what looks like a spot where a boss for parking a travel cap might once have been soldered on. Can't see similar on Shed-man's but there again it might all be a trick of the light. Hopefully the man himslef will chime in.

    Cheers, Graham.
     
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    Morning, Shed-man, and All,

    I'd toss my two cents into your stove being a Veritas, too. I have a one pint Veritas, complete with tin, wrench, windscreen, and reserve cap and chain, and other than it's deeply impressed markings, it looks identical to yours, including the pressure release setup. I'll post photos in the Reference Gallery, and you can compare them to your mystery stove. But, to my eye, your stove is an earlier version of mine. Congrats on a nice little stove, and should work a treat when you fettle it into life! By the way, if you need measurements of the pot supports (legs) on my Veritas, just say the word, and I'll send some along for you. Take care, and God Bless!

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    Hi Graham,
    Hi Ian,

    Graham, There is no indication of a reserve cap boss being fitted on this stove, and no sign of removed soldering. also the overall patina indicates that there has not been one removed.

    Ian, The link to Kerophile's stove is the best match so far, thanks. But there were no conclusions on the maker of that one either. So it is still a mystery.

    Steve.
     
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    Hi, Steve, and All,

    Here is the link to my Veritas Compact Stove, which is I think is a later version of yours. Note the reserve cap on a chain, and not a boss. Check it out, and see if this is your stove. Also, if you need info on the legs, and such, I'll take measurements and photos, and post them here, or send them to you in a PT, whichever you prefer.

    https://classiccampstoves.com/posts/28480

    You have a fine stove, and when it's complete and fettled, I'll bet it's a screamer! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    I think you might be right there Mark.

    And do you know what's really annoying? It's that I'd forgotten it was a one pint stove. I had it in mind it was a 1/2 pinter.

    And do you know what's even more annoying? I have one AND I used it back in May at our village pinic to celebrate the Queen's Diamond Jubilee as it hails from around the period of her coronation.

    You're right - it is a screamer. It runs really well. You can spot mine here both unlit and lit during my contribution to a British Stove Shoot we did a few years back:

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    Just looking at the pics I can't determine whether mine has the embossed tank markings or not. I'll have to have a look tonight if I ever get out of the office.

    Cheers, Graham.
     
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    Thanks for the iformation everyone, but all the pictures shown have a maker's name in the tank, apart from Kerophile's. So it looks like a known make, probably Veritas,, and that is about as far as we can take it. I now need to get the burner straightened, un-twisted, and see how it goes. I am afraid that without more evidence of maker, it will have to remain in the "Mystery" unknown bracket for now. Thanks to all - Steve.
     
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    Hi, Steve,

    I forgot to post one last photo of my Veritas stove. :oops: :roll: :D Check out this decal on the side:

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    As seen on other Reference Gallery photos of this stove, it also has a fuel decal advising only "Pink" paraffin be used. I can easily imagine that earlier versions of my Veritas stove, like yours, were made with only these decals, and not other markings. Makes sense to me, anyway.... Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    Thanks Doc, Veritas looks favourite at the moment. Steve.
     
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    Hey, Shed-Man,

    Does your stove have one leg socket that has a small hole drilled in the top edge? That would add a bit to this hypothesis. I can take and post a close up photo of that hole in my Veritas, if that would help you any. Take care, and God Bless!

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    Yes Doc, on the leg socket between the filler cap and the pump! Is this a significant identifying point I wonder? Steve.
     
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    Hi, Steve,

    Well, I think that it does. Your hole is located in the exact same place as is mine:

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    I wonder if there are any early catalogs of Veritas stoves in the Reference Library??? :-k :-k I'll have to check and see. But, right now, I have to get some work done today, or Sweet Bride, who just returned from our last gig late last night, will "fire" me, and I'll have to get "a real job"!! :shock: :shock: :-({|= :-({|= :D/ :lol: :lol: I think your stove is an early version of the Veritas Compact Pressure Stove, #9688. Time will either prove, or disprove that theory. In any case, it's a nice little stove, and I'll bet you very much enjoy yours, as I plan to do with mine! Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
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    Hi everyone! Just seen Bratok's post about the Veritas, and I am now convinced that I have an unmarked (no tank stampings) early version of the Veritas Compact Stove. All seems to fit into place now, having seen Doc Mark's, Kerophile's and Bratok's posts. Thank you for all your help. I think that this burner may be beyond my fettling skills, so I will think about it, but may offer it to a new home in a week or two. Best regards to all - Steve.
     
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    Hi Shed-man,

    Veritas is correct. And as Mark surmised previously it's a 9688.

    I'm feeling a bit of an idiot (even more so than normal). In my first reply I said I didn't think I'd ever seen a Veritas 1 pinter with that pressure release arrangement. And then, prompted by Mark's post I realised I actually own one. Not only that, it's exactly the same stove (i.e. no tank embossing like Mark's) as yours :doh: ](*,)

    Here's your (no longer a mystery) Veritas 9688:

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    BTW, the legs on these stoves are aluminium (although Mark would probably disagree and insist they are aluminum).

    Edit: Also just realised after comparing my (probably earlier?) version with Mark's that the leg alignment is different in regards to their relative position to the filler cap and pump. Also, mine doesn't have the chain and, as it's not in fornt of me, I don't think it has the hole in the leg socket to fit one. That is an obvious improvement over my version, which is another reason to suspect mine is earlier.

    Another edit: Comparing all three versions it seems your and Mark's tanks have the same leg alignment and mine is the odd one out. Maybe that wasn't something that was QC'd and it was down to individual worker as to how they aligned the tank in what I presume was some sort of jig when fixing the leg sockets.

    Cheers, Graham.
     
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    Morning, 4B, and All,

    I think you are on the right track, Graham. Looks to me as if yours and Bratok's stoves are the earlier versions, with Shed-Man's coming in sometime after the ones you guys have, and mine being a later model. Brian suggested mine was made in the 1950's, which sounds right to me, but I've not investigated further to verify that.

    Not to worry about forgetting you have certain stoves..... I do that all the time!! :oops: :oops: :lol: Back when we moved up to our mountain home, my stoves had been pretty much in storage for quite a few years. Then, I found CCS, and well, opening all my boxes of stoves was like seeing most of them for the very first time!! I was stunned at how many I kept finding, and had a year, or so, of surprises, as I located and opened each box of stoves!! Even now, all those years later, I still stumble upon a hidden box which contains a few more stoves! Rather fun, that!

    Glad we solved Shed-Man's mystery, and by the way, yes, my Veritas' legs are, indeed, aluminum, or aluminium, as you Guys say! I'd not noticed that, but it's readily apparent once you remove and heft one, and a quick magnet application sealed the deal. Thanks for that bit of extra info. Take care, and God Bless!

    Every Good Wish,
    Doc