Army No 7 cases - what fits?

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  1. Andy BB

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    I've seen the No 7 cases advertised on Ebay, and I've seen a number of petrol stoves (123, 70/71 etc) that possibly might fit. Is this the case, and are there any paraffin/kerosene stoves that would also fit? The case looks really good - can imagine it'd be a good "motorbike" stove with the right stove inside it.

    I have a couple of petrol stoves already - a No 2 Mk 2 modified (great stove but too big for a bike!) and a Coleman 533 with case that is very effective, but not too keen on it near a tent! Feel safer with paraffin to be honest.

    Or should I just wait for a kero 111?
     
  2. Knight84

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    I am no expert but the No. 7 is a Optimus 80 tank with a Svea 123R burner on it. The Optimus 80 and Primus 71 fit inside. But not the Svea 123 (the tank/font is wider)

    I'd wait for the Kero 111. Great stove!!!
    But not really a solo stove. The Primus 96 or Primus 210 would be great stoves to take though. They pack down small and burn paraffin.

    Best regards,
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    Thanks for that Jeff. You're probably right, but at the moment all 111s seem to be going for ridiculous prices! Just wondered if a 96 or 210 or another kero stove would also fit in the Army case!
     
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    No sadly the 96 and 210 will not fit inside the case.

    Jeff
     
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    Your right about the prices of the 111. Be sure to check out ebay germany. (ebay.de) There are some good deals on there sometimes.

    Jeff
     
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    All this talk about cases....hmmm can someone with the skill of a tinsmith make a sample case for a 96 or 210? One with a latch and carry handle on the top and perhaps a collar in the case to hold the stove securely? Surely, it could be patterned after some of the previous stoves that had a hand made case :mrgreen:

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    Something like the Monitor Picnic stove Ron?

    Great idea!

    Jeff
     
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    Yes, thats what was on my mind Jeff. Now if I do take that vacation back home, I will take with me my 96 and 210 and have someone make me a case out of SS. For now, that vacation is on hold. Still paying a lot of loans. If I do and its successful, I will talk to the one who made it and work out shipping costs. At least no fuzz about painting and oxidation :mrgreen: Might need to look up old pictures in the gallery to get some ideas.

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    Hi Ron, The problem with this suggestion is that the stoves do not have a regulator and therefore you can't cut off the fuel supply to the burner. Therefore everytime you transport the stove you'll have to empty the fuel out or end up with kero everywhere. Plus transporting the stove "made up" would end up with a larger package the same as the Monitor Picnic stove suggested. The Monitor Picnic has a screw on cap that fits over the top of the burner to stop the fuel leakage - this is unique (as far as I know) to this stove.

    The whole point of the 96, 210 and similar stoves is that they are collapsible to take up a small space for transport (e.g. in a rucksack or bike pannier etc). If complete they come with a reserve cap that seals off the tank so it can be transported (two thirds) full of fuel. Most of them also come with a tin already although you can't use it as a stable cooking platform.

    Is what's really required here a lightweight and collapsible stable pan support that incorporates wind shielding?

    Cheers, Graham.
     
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    Graham, you indeed have a point there as most cased stoves do have a control spondle to stop the flow of fuel. Someone will think of something and work it out. I have confidence in our members who truly have come up with great and interesting innovations.

    Ron
     
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    My 1954 Prfimus 71 fits. :-k different heights of the 71 there are.

    Jeff
     
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    The height difference between my 123 and 71 is 18mm, so any room for the flame front of the 123 (correct stove?) will be lost if a 71 is tucked in without alterations.

    My $0.02
     
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    Henrik there are two sizes of 71 the small tank one fits a treat and works very well the one you have is the later large tank model hence the issue you have faced.
    Cheers
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    Ahhhh, knowledge.
    A stranger to me.

    Seriously though, i did not know that!
     
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    I still don't know. Just wish I could remember half the stuff I forgot. :doh:

    Your tank fits but your burner or burner bell is taller. So now I am lost. The earlier ones had a wider tank and of course don't fit. Your tank must be taller than the other 71's. :-k
    I need a drink to think about this. ;)

    Jeff
     
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    Here's the usual suspects

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    Army No.7 case:

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    The obvious contender for occupancy is, you guessed it, the Army No.7:

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    But there are a number of other contenders,including, but not limited to,

    larger Primus No.71;

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    smaller Primus No.71;

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    larger Optimus No.80;

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    smaller Optimus No.80;

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    and the Radius No.42;

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    If the handle is removed, the Primus No.70 will also fit (I like this combo :D )

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    Just for the record, I have found that it is much easier to fit the Army No.7 & the other tall stoves, into the Army case if a slot is cut in the front of the panrest, similar to the Primus No.71L cases;

    1276173937-CustomA7.JPG 1276174154-71Lc.JPG
     
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  20. dday

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    Thanks for showing us a pic of each type of stove in a #7 case Ian. Now I have one question, do you have a #7 case for every one of the stoves that you have shown :lol: ? Just kiddin, but you have some really nice stoves there, and cases to boot! Take care,
    Dan